Ancestors of Tim Farr and The Descendants of Stephen Farr


Ralph De CROMWELL [Parents] was born 1 about 1230. He died 2 before 18 Sep 1289. Ralph married Mazera MARMION.

Mazera MARMION [Parents] was born 1 about 1242. She died 2 before 1270. Mazera married Ralph De CROMWELL.

Tamworth passed to Joan, daughter of Mazeera Marmion, and wife of Alexander de Freville, and Scrivelsby eventually passed with Margaret de Ludlow to Sir John Dymoke, in whose family it has since remained along with the title 'Champion of England'.

They had the following children.

  F i Joan de CROMWELL was born in 1264. She died before 27 Oct 1339.

Robert ASTON Knight. Robert married Joyce FREVILLE.

Joyce FREVILLE [Parents] was born before 1401. She died before 1418. Joyce married Robert ASTON Knight.

Joyce Freville married Sir Roger Aston, Sheriff of Staffordshire, Constable of the Tower of London, Justice of the Peace for Staffordshire, son of Sir Thomas de Aston and Elizabeth Leigh, circa 1410; His 1st marriage; they had 1 son (Sir Robert) and 1 daughter (Joan, wife of Sir Roger Draycot).2,3,4,5,6,7 Joyce Freville died before 1418.1,2,4,6 Family Sir Roger Aston, Sheriff of Staffordshire, Constable of the Tower of London, Justice of the Peace for Staffordshire d. 1447 Children Thomas Aston+ b. c 1412, d. c 1463 Sir Robert Aston, Sheriff of Staffordshire+1,2,4,6 b. c 1414, d. 1464


William De FERRERS 7th Earl of Derby [Parents] [scrapbook] 1 was born 2 about 1193 in Derbyshire, England, United Kingdom. He died 3 on 24 Mar 1254 in Evington, Leicestershire, England, United Kingdom. He was buried in Merevale, Warwickshire, England, United Kingdom. William married 4 Sibilla MARSHALL before 14 May 1219.

Other marriages:
QUINCY, Margaret De

Most authorities name this William the 5th Earl of Derby not taking into account that his grandfather William de Ferrers was a Templar and was not allowed to bear a coat of arms. He was the 5th Earl of Derby and his father, Robert de Ferrers, was stripped of his coat of arms because of his rebellion and was 4th Earl of Derby. These two Ferrers' show no armorials and are skipped by many authorities but not by all. Cecil Stewart Filmer Ferrers(among others) in his book, "The Ferrers Family History" shows all eight Earl Ferrers' of Derby instead of the usual six.

The Chartley line is through William's oldest son, Robert 8th Earl of Derby. The Groby line is through his second son, William 1st Baron of Groby.

Sibilla MARSHALL [Parents] 1 was born about 1204. She died before 1238. Sibilla married 2 William De FERRERS 7th Earl of Derby before 14 May 1219.

They had the following children.

  F i Isabel FERRERS.
  F ii Maud Matilda De FERRERS was born about 1228. She died on 12 Mar 1299.
  F iii Eleanor De FERRERS was born about 1236. She died on 2 Nov 1274.

William De FERRERS 7th Earl of Derby [Parents] [scrapbook] 1 was born 2 about 1193 in Derbyshire, England, United Kingdom. He died 3 on 24 Mar 1254 in Evington, Leicestershire, England, United Kingdom. He was buried in Merevale, Warwickshire, England, United Kingdom. William married Margaret De QUINCY in 1238.

Other marriages:
MARSHALL, Sibilla

Most authorities name this William the 5th Earl of Derby not taking into account that his grandfather William de Ferrers was a Templar and was not allowed to bear a coat of arms. He was the 5th Earl of Derby and his father, Robert de Ferrers, was stripped of his coat of arms because of his rebellion and was 4th Earl of Derby. These two Ferrers' show no armorials and are skipped by many authorities but not by all. Cecil Stewart Filmer Ferrers(among others) in his book, "The Ferrers Family History" shows all eight Earl Ferrers' of Derby instead of the usual six.

The Chartley line is through William's oldest son, Robert 8th Earl of Derby. The Groby line is through his second son, William 1st Baron of Groby.

Margaret De QUINCY [Parents] was born 1 about 1218. She died 2 about 12 Mar 1281. Margaret married William De FERRERS 7th Earl of Derby in 1238.

They had the following children.

  M i
Robert De FERRERS 8th Earl of Derby.

William De FERRERS 6th Earl of Derby [Parents] [scrapbook] 1 was born 2 in 1172 in Tutbury, Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom. He died 3 on 22 Sep 1247 in Duffield, Derbyshire, England, United Kingdom. William married Agnes De KEVELIOC also known as Meschines.

William's death is erroneously said to have died in Chartley Castle, of the gout-- in fact his gout-related death was due to injury, as recounted in an anecdote in Burke's: "His lordship, who from his youth had been a martyr to the gout, and in consequence obliged to he drawn from place to place in a chariot, lost his life by being thrown through the heedlessness of his driver over the bridge at St. Neots, co. Huntingdon." He died in an inn enroute to Chartley, and Agnes his wife of 55 years died upon the arrival of his body-- so he was not conveyed to Merevale Abbey (as has been reported), and the two of them were given a joint funeral and burial at Chartley.

Agnes De KEVELIOC also known as Meschines [Parents] 1 was born 2 about 1174. She died 3 on 2 Nov 1247. Agnes married William De FERRERS 6th Earl of Derby.

Agnes de Kevelioc, alias Agnes of Chester, was Lady Chartley in her own right, and conveyed that honor into the Ferrers family as he dowery. She and the Earl were married for over 50 years, died within days of one another, and were given a joint requiem on their burial together.

The Ferrers family kept Chartley for generations even though William held it in tail for the duration of his wife's life-- it has been said the portentous nature of their double burial there had some influence on the King's conveyance of Chartley to William's son the 5th Earl.

They had the following children.

  M i William De FERRERS 7th Earl of Derby was born about 1193. He died on 24 Mar 1254.

Richard D. BARTELS was born 1 on 5 Oct 1928 in New York, United States. He died 2 on 15 Mar 1995 in New York, United States. Richard married Patricia FARR.

Patricia FARR [Parents] [scrapbook] 1 was born 2 in 1930 in New York, United States. She died 3, 4 on 16 Nov 2001 in Schenectady, New York, United States. Patricia married Richard D. BARTELS.

Patricia was counted in a census 5 in 1940 in Rotterdam, Schenectady, New York, United States.


Robert Le GROSVENOR [Parents] was born 1 about 1342. He died on 22 Apr 1396. Robert married Joan De PULFORD.

Joan De PULFORD was born 1 about 1347. She died before 1396. Joan married Robert Le GROSVENOR.

They had the following children.

  M i Thomas GROSVENOR was born in 1377. He died in 1429.

Richard VENABLES [Parents] was born 1 about 1360. He died in Jul 1403. Richard married Isabel LANGTON.

Isabel LANGTON [Parents] was born 1 about 1362. Isabel married Richard VENABLES.

They had the following children.

  F i Joan VENABLES was born in 1383.

Ralph Le GROSVENOR was born 1 about 1310. He died before 1356. Ralph married Joan.

Joan 1. Joan married Ralph Le GROSVENOR.

They had the following children.

  M i Robert Le GROSVENOR was born about 1342. He died on 22 Apr 1396.

Hugh VENABLES was born 1 about 1335. He died about 1382. Hugh married Margery COTTON.

Margery COTTON was born 1 about 1340. She died after 1398. Margery married Hugh VENABLES.

They had the following children.

  M i Richard VENABLES was born about 1360. He died in Jul 1403.

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