Ancestors of Tim Farr and Descendants of Stephen Farr Sr. of Concord, Massachusetts and Lidlington, Bedfordshire, England


Saher de QUINCY IV 1st Earl of Winchester, Magna Carta Surety [Parents] [scrapbook] 1, 2, 3 was born 4 in 1155 in of Winchester, Hampshire, England, United Kingdom. He died 5, 6, 7 on 3 Nov 1219 in Damietta, Egypt. Saher married 8 Margaret de BEAUMONT 9, 10 in BET 1168 AND 1173.

SAHER DE QUENCY IV, 1st Earl of Winchester, died at Damietta in the Holy Land, 3 Nov. 1219, and was buried in Acre.

He married MARGARETM DE BEAUMONT, younger sister and coheir of Robert Fitz Pernel, 4th Earl of Leicester, and second daughter of Robert, 3rd Earl of Leicester., she died probably on 12 Jan. 1234/5, having been recognized as the Countess of Winchester while a widow Active with Kings Richard and John in Normandy, 1197-1199, he witnessed the pact between John and the Count of Boulogne at Chateau Gaillard, 18 August 1199. On 30 Oct. 1200 he was appointed to conduct William the Lion, King of Scotland, to meet King John; he was present the next 22 Nov. when William the Lion did homage to John. He was captured by the French in 1203 when he and his cousin, Robert Fitz Walter, surrendered the castle of Vandreuil without a fight, but he was in England by 5 May 1204.

When his wife's only brother, Robert Fitz Pernel, 4th Earl of Leicester, died without issue, he was given custody, on 30 March 1205, of the Honors of Leicester and Grand­mesnil; by 10 Feb. 1206/7 he was recognized as the Earl of Winchester. He served in Scotland in 1209, and in Ireland in 1210. He was active in the work of the Exchequer, 1211-1213, and Justice, and served as Ambassador to Emperor Otto IV in 1212. He witnessed the charter by which King John surrendered the Crown to the Pope on 15 May 1213, and in June 1215 was one of the twenty-five Barons chosen to enforce obedience to the Magna Charta, having been with the confederate Barons against the King at Stamford.

With the other barons he was exconununicated by the Pope, and early in 1216 he went with Robert Fitz Walter to invite Prince Louis to England; the result was that his lands were seized and later granted to William Marshal, son of the Earl of Pembroke. He saved the town of St. Albans from being sacked by Prince Louis' army in Dec. 1216, was captured by the forces of King Henry Ill at Lincoln, 20 May 1217, but was restored his lands on 29 Sept. 1217 when he returned to his allegiance.

He was present at Worcester in March 12 17/8, when peace was made between Prince Llywelyn ab lorworth of Wales and Henry Ill of England. In 1219 he joined the Crusaders before Damietta.

Children, mentioned by Cokayne or Weis:
i.    son d. young.
ii.   Roger, d. 25 April 1264; m. (1) Helen of Galloway, m. (2) Maud de Bohun, m. (3) c. 1252 Eleanor de Ferrers.
iii.  Lorette, m. Sir William de Valognes or Valonyes of Panmure, co. Foifar, Chamberlain of Scotland, who d. Kelso 1219 [Weis, MCS5, 111A:2].
iv.  Orabella, m. Sir Richard” de Harcourt of Stanton Harcourt.
v.   Robert [mother unknown (TG, 5:221-225)], m. HawiseM of Chester.
vi.  Hawise, m. after 11 Feb. 1222/3 Hugh de Vere, Earl of Oxford.

Margaret de BEAUMONT [scrapbook] 1, 2 was born in 1155 in of Hampshire, England, United Kingdom. She died 3, 4, 5 on 12 Jan 1235/1236. Margaret married 6 Saher de QUINCY IV 1st Earl of Winchester, Magna Carta Surety 7, 8, 9 in BET 1168 AND 1173.

Daughter of the third Earl of Leicester, and descended fron Capetian kings of France.

They had the following children.

  M i Roger de QUINCY 2nd Earl of Winchester was born in 1190. He died on 25 Apr 1264.
  F ii Hawise De QUINCY died about 3 Feb 1263.
  F iii Mary De QUINCY.

Roger de QUINCY 2nd Earl of Winchester [Parents] [scrapbook] 1, 2, 3 was born 4 in 1190 in of Winchester, Hampshire, England, United Kingdom. He died 5, 6 on 25 Apr 1264 in England, United Kingdom. Roger married Eleanor De FERRERS.

Other marriages:
GALLOWAY, Helen Mcdonal of

ROGERL DE QUINCY, Earl of Winchester, died without male issue 25 April 1264, and was probably buried at Brackley, Leicestershire, his Earldom reverting to the Crown.

He married first HELEN OF GALLOWAY, second but first surviving daughter and coheir of Alan, Lord of Galloway, Constable of Scotland, who died in 1234. Helen died after 21 Nov. 1245 and was buried at Brackley. He married second, before 5 June 1250, Maud de Bohun, widow of Anselm Marshal, Earl of Pembroke, who died in Dec. 1245, and daughter of Humphrey de Bohun, by Maud, daughter of Raoul (Ralph) de Lusignan, Count of Eu. The younger Maud was not very old when she died without issue in Grosby, Leicestershire, 20 Oct. 1252 and was buried at Brackley. He married third, without license, before 5 Dec. 1252, Eleanor (or Alianole) de Ferrers, widow of William de Vaux (who had died without issue shortly before 14 Sept. 1252), and seventh daughter of William de Ferrers, 5th Earl of Derby, by his first wife, Sybil (of whom Eleanor was coheir). His widow was assigned dower 21 Sept. 1264, and married third, before 8 Sept. 1267, as his second wife, Roger de Leyburn, who died about Oct. 1271. She died shortly before 26 Oct. 1274, and was buried at Leeds Priory.

He was apparently on Crusade at Damietta in the Holy Land when his father died, and inherited his father's lands 16 Feb 1220/1. Upon his mother's death in 1234/5 he was recognized as the Earl of Winchester. He traveled with his mother's knights to Brittany in the spring and summer of 1230.

By rights inherited through his first wife he became hereditary Constable of Scotland in 1234. He needed the help of the Scottish king to quash a rebellion against his tyrannical rule of his lands there in 1247. He had witnessed an agreement between Alexander of Scotland and Henry III on 25 Sept. 1237, served in Gascony in 1242, against the Welsh in 1258, 1260, 1261 and 1263, and was an arbitrator between the King of Scotland and Henry III in 1257/8. He took up arms for Henry Ill in 1260, 1261 and 1263.

Children, by first wife, the first three listed by Cokayne:
i.    Margaret, d. 1280/1; m. c. 1238 William de Ferrers, Earl of Derby; she resigned her hereditary office as Constable of Scotland in favor of her brother-in-law, the 6th Earl of Buchan, in 1270.
ii.   Elizabeth (or Isabel), m. Alexander Comyn, 6th Earl of Buchnn and Constable of Scotland.
iii.  Helen (or Ellen, Elene [Elena in Weis, AR7, 53:29]), d. 1296; m. Sir Alan Ia Zouche, of Ashby-de-la-Zouche, who d. 10 August 1270.
iv.  Isabel, b. c. 1224 [Norr, 100]; was to m. 1241 Hugh Neville (at this time the names Isabel and Elizabeth were essentially the same, and this could be a reference to Elizabeth, above).

Roger de Quincy, Earl of Winchester, constable of Scotland, was a benefactor to the building of Henry III's new Gothic Westminster Abbey, begun in 1245.

Eleanor De FERRERS [Parents] was born about 1236 in Derby, Derbyshire, England, United Kingdom. She died on 2 Nov 1274 in Elham, Kent, England, United Kingdom. She was buried in Leeds, West Riding of Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom. Eleanor married Roger de QUINCY 2nd Earl of Winchester 1, 2, 3.


Lord Alan De GALLOWAY was born 1 about 1175. He died 2 in 1234.

He had the following children.

  F i Helen Mcdonal of GALLOWAY was born about 1200. She died after 21 Nov 1245.

Robert de QUINCY [Parents] [scrapbook] died 1 in 1197. Robert married Orable of Leuchars 2.

ROBERT DE QUENcY, lord of Buckley and of Fawside died before Michaelmas 1197.
He married first ORABLE (or Orabella), daughter and de facto heiress of Nes, son of William, Lord OF LEUCHARs; apparently they separated. He married second Eve, who survived him and was perhaps a member of the House of Galloway. Eve had been the widow of, or married secondly, Walter de Berkeley, Chamberlain of Scotland.

He apparently went to Scotland in his youth as he witnessed a charter which may date from 1163. He obtained lands in Leuchars, Tranent, Lathrisk, Beith and Nesgask, perhaps through his wife's rights inherited from her mother. He was granted the ancient castle of Forfar by his cousin, King William, during whose reign he made many grants to religious houses and witnessed royal grants in Scotland. He accompanied King Richard I of England to the Holy Land in 1190, was Constable of a force to take aid to Antioch in July 1191, and was sent with the Duke of Burgundy to Tyre to collect prisoners from Philip Augustus that August. He fought in Normandy in 1194 'and 1196.

Children, by first wife:
i.    Saher IV, d. 3 Nov. 1219; m. Margaret de Beaumont, dau. of Robert, 3rd Earl of Leicester.
ii.   Robert, b. say 1168 [CP, 12:2:748g]; d. before 1232.
Children, listed by Lundy W. Barlow [NEHCS, 112:64], by which wife not stated:
iii.  daughter, m. St. Andrews.
iv.  Simon, probable son, parson of Leuchars.

Orable of Leuchars 1. Orable married Robert de QUINCY.

They had the following children.

  M i Saher de QUINCY IV 1st Earl of Winchester, Magna Carta Surety was born in 1155. He died on 3 Nov 1219.

Leonard IRBY [Parents] 1 was born 2 after 1517. He died 3 on 3 Feb 1571/1572 in Boston, Lincolnshire, England, United Kingdom. Leonard married 4 Anne KNEVITT 5 on 20 Jul 1562 in Boston, Lincolnshire, England, United Kingdom.

Member of Parliament for the borough of Boston.

Anne KNEVITT 1. Anne married 2 Leonard IRBY on 20 Jul 1562 in Boston, Lincolnshire, England, United Kingdom.


Edmund IRBY [Parents] was born 1 after 1517. He died 2, 3 in 1563. Edmund married 4 Elizabeth BRIGHTMAN.

Elizabeth BRIGHTMAN 1. Elizabeth married 2 Edmund IRBY.


Thomas IRBY [Parents] 1 was born 2 after 1517. He died 3 about 1561 in Whaplode, Lincolnshire, England, United Kingdom. Thomas married 4 Isabel SEAGRAVE in BET 1535 AND 1540 in Moulton, Lincolnshire, England, United Kingdom.

Isabel SEAGRAVE [scrapbook]. Isabel married 1 Thomas IRBY 2 in BET 1535 AND 1540 in Moulton, Lincolnshire, England, United Kingdom.


Kenelm IRBY [Parents] was born 1 after 1517. He was buried 2 on 27 Dec 1585 in Whaplode, Lincolnshire, England, United Kingdom. Kenelm married Mary.

Kenelm had a will 3 on 8 Jan 1584/1585 in Sutterton, Lincoln, England, United Kingdom. His will was probated 4 on 23 Feb 1584/1585 in Sutterton, Lincoln, England, United Kingdom.

Mary 1. Mary married Kenelm IRBY.


Henry DEATH 1. Henry married 2 Margaret IRBY before 1548.

Margaret IRBY [Parents] 1 was born 2 after 1517. Margaret married 3 Henry DEATH before 1548.


Thomas PEARSON 1. Thomas married 2 Catherine IRBY in BET 1548 AND 1563.

Catherine IRBY [Parents] 1 was born 2 after 1517. Catherine married 3 Thomas PEARSON in BET 1548 AND 1563.

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